Friends With Money #272: The retirement revolution

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Retirement is changing fast, and for many Australians the idea of simply stopping work at 65 no longer reflects reality.

So what does modern retirement look like, and how much money do you really need to be comfortable?

On this episode of the Friends With Money podcast, Money's Vanessa Walker is joined by journalist and author Nina Hendy to discuss the new retirement landscape, the rise of FORO (fear of running out), and the practical steps Australians can take to build financial confidence in later life.

friends with money podcast featuring vanessa walker and nina hendy on the retirement revolution

Episode timestamps

00:00 Introduction to the retirement revolution

00:41 Why retirement is becoming more flexible

02:15 Why Australians worry about retirement but don't take action

04:00 How much money do you really need to retire?

06:12 Understanding the fear of running out (FORO)

07:42 New retirement income products and lifetime income solutions

09:30 Longevity and the challenge of longer retirements

10:07 How cost-of-living pressures are affecting retirement planning

11:15 The most important retirement lessons for Australians

13:21 Final takeaways and practical retirement tips

14:30 Conclusion

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What is the Friends With Money podcast?

Friends With Money is a weekly personal finance podcast by Money magazine, offering expert insights on investing, budgeting, superannuation, property, and other money strategies for everyday Australians.

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Vanessa Walker is the managing editor of Money, which won three awards at the 2026 Mumbrella Publish Awards, and one of the hosts of the Friends With Money podcast. She is a journalist, author and former editor in chief of Houzz. Vanessa has a Bachelor of Political Science and post-graduate studies in journalism. Connect with Vanessa Walker on LinkedIn.

Nina Hendy is an Australian finance journalist covering wealth, investing, property, superannuation, banking and everything in between that relates to finances. She tells stories that matter to everyday people who want to make more informed decisions about their own finances. Connect with Nina Hendy on LinkedIn.