Friends With Money #245: Super switching - Are you being misled?

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Friends With Money podcast host Ryan Johnson speaks with ASIC Commissioner Alan Kirkland about online "free super health check" sites, quizzes, and social media ads used as lead-generation funnels that collect contact details, trigger telemarketing, and can pressure people to switch super into riskier, more expensive products.

Kirkland explains ASIC's review and its transparency list (44 firms so far), noting that listing is not a finding of wrongdoing and the list will be updated while the review continues.

He outlines common funnel tactics, investor harms seen in cases like First Guardian and Shield, and why switching into platform products or self-managed super funds can reduce protections.

friends with money podcast 245 Super switching Are you being mislead alan kirkland

Key red flags include unsolicited calls, pressure to act quickly, and offers to "find lost super."

Consumers are directed to ASIC's MoneySmart website for trusted guidance and complaints.

00:43 What lead generation means

01:42 ASIC transparency list explained

03:52 Who ASIC is targeting

04:58 Inside the sales funnel

06:52 When marketing breaks laws

08:12 Case study: First Guardian

10:28 APRA vs ASIC and SMSFs

12:51 Red flags for consumers

14:15 Where to get help

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Ryan Johnson was a journalist at Money from October 2024 to April 2026. He previously worked covering the Australian and New Zealand mortgage and banking industries. He has also written on superannuation, insurance, and personal finance. Ryan has a Bachelor of Communication (Journalism) from Curtin University, Perth. Connect with Ryan Johnson on LinkedIn.

Alan Kirkland commenced as an ASIC Commissioner in November 2023. He has over 20 years' experience in consumer protection, social services, law reform and justice in the public and not-for-profit sectors. Earlier, Alan was the CEO at CHOICE where he represented the interests of Australian consumers for more than 11 years. He was also the Executive Director of the Australian Law Reform Commission, the CEO of Legal Aid New South Wales, Chair of the National Legal Assistance Advisory Body, and Executive Director of the NSW Council of Social Service. From 2016 to 2017, Alan was a member of the panel for the Ramsay Review, which led to the establishment of the Australian Financial Complaints Authority and Compensation Scheme of Last Resort. He holds degrees in Arts and Law from the University of NSW, an Executive MBA from the Australian Graduate School of Management, and is a Graduate of the Australian Institute of Company Directors. Connect with Alan on LinkedIn.