Friends With Money #263: Awkward conversations about money

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How can Australians have honest, productive conversations about money with partners or family without awkwardness, arguments, or avoidance?

Money conversations are often dodged due to fear of conflict, judgment, or a lack of confidence. But avoiding them can make financial stress worse.

According to Meray El-Khoury of MetLife Australia, the key is to start small. Use gentle, time-bound openers such as "Can we spend 15 minutes talking about money?" Focus on "we" rather than "you", and break topics into manageable chunks, such as cash flow, debt, protection and retirement.

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Regular, calm check-ins help families plan for life's curveballs and build financial resilience together.

If you don't talk about money, you risk missing warning signs, being unprepared for emergencies and leaving one partner vulnerable.

Open, positive conversations help families set goals, avoid nasty surprises and take control of their financial future, rather than letting circumstances dictate outcomes.

Timestamps

00:02:04 Why we avoid money talks: fear, judgment, lack of confidence

00:04:50 How to start: gentle openers, time-bound, "we" language

00:06:45 Order of topics: cashflow, debt, protection, retirement

00:08:01 Protection: insurance, planning for the unexpected

00:13:34 Retirement: conversation starters and positive framing

00:12:02 Regular check-ins: monthly, calm, non-confrontational

00:15:22 Inclusivity: making sure both partners are involved

00:17:05 Incremental progress: clarity comes from talking

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Michelle Baltazar is editor-in-chief of Money magazine and an award-winning journalist, editor and publisher. She has worked at BRW, Shares Magazine (London) and industry newspaper Financial Standard, and has written about superannuation, wealth management, investment technology and financial advice. Connect with Michelle Baltazar on LinkedIn.

Meray El-Khoury is the chief insurance officer at MetLife. She is a Fellow of the Institute of Actuaries of Australia, with a Bachelor of Commerce (Actuarial Studies) degree. Her career spans over 15 years in the insurance, superannuation and wealth management industries. Prior to joining MetLife in 2019, Meray held various roles across the superannuation industry, including as head of corporate and institutional distribution at a major industry fund, as well as roles in group insurance, finance and financial planning.