Ask Paul: Should I give $1 million to my kids so I can claim the pension?

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Dear Paul,

I feel as if I'm between a rock and a hard place. I have enough assets to prevent me from getting the pension, but not enough to create an economic engine to pay me a passive income in retirement.

I'm 53, married (28 years!) to a 51-year-old. We own our own home, have no debts and have three young adult children who live at home and are studying at uni.

Ask Paul Clitheroe: Should I give $1 million in assets to my kids so I can claim the pension

Our super is $820,000 combined and we have a $330,000 share portfolio that generates $870 a month in passive income, which is automatically reinvested. 

We add $1000 a month to the portfolio and $1000 a month in pre-tax contributions split between our super accounts.

We are blessed, I know, and I'm thankful for what we have, but we hope to retire in seven years, and I just don't know if we are going to get to the place where super and passive income will be enough to live on.

I'm not sure my health will let me work much longer than that. Do I distribute my assets to my kids now so I can get a pension later? I don't know what else to do.

It keeps me up at night. Am I worrying needlessly? - Michael

Well, Michael, in this highly volatile world we live in, I think we all worry a bit. The positive aspect of worrying about our money is that, unlike global issues, we all can take action. At least our money is in our control.

First up, though, let's take distributing assets to the kids at this point in time off the table. I have a simple rule about this: ensure your and your wife's financial security come first, then help the kids.

Let's take a rough look, financially, at where your assets could be in around seven years. For the sake of this exercise, I'll use a historically conservative 5%pa return for both your shares and super.

As you know, returns from super for many decades have, on average, been around 9%pa. Shares, including dividends, for centuries have averaged a bit over 10%pa.

There are few guarantees in life (except, as the old saying goes, death and taxes), but history says that by using a 5% return we can be pretty confident your assets will also cover inflation over time. In other words, we are looking at your real purchasing power.

I suspect the $1000 you add to super may be on top of employer contributions.

If that is the case, this estimate is way below what you will have: your current super balance, plus $1000 a month, is projected to be about $1.25 million and your shares (excluding the $870 per month) around $562,000. So, in seven years, a realistic projection is about $1.8 million.

Our planet could be hit by an asteroid or some dreadful plague for all I know, but at age 60, with this amount in super and shares, it would not be a silly plan to draw out, say, 5% a year, meaning you would have around $90,000 a year to spend, pretty much tax free due to super pension rules and franked dividends.

If more than that is required, pop along and see a professional adviser.

A logical strategy is to draw down on your funds and plan towards a part age pension as you approach 67. In the decades past that, you could draw down on your assets, which, incidentally, is the whole idea. Being the richest person in the graveyard doesn't make much sense.

As you build towards and start enjoying financial independence, later is the time to consider help for the kids.

Many things may happen to your life and work. You may work longer, receive an inheritance and so on.

I feel strongly that you should build your assets, not give them away to the kids now, thinking about a pension at age 67.

Please take professional advice to map out your financial future before you think seriously about this. The day will come when it makes sense to help the kids, but today, in my opinion, is not the day.

In seven years, if about $90,000 a year in today's money will allow you to live as you wish, I'd lower your money worry level. Just keep investing.

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Paul Clitheroe AM is founder and editorial adviser of Money magazine. He is one of Australia's leading financial voices, responsible for bringing financial insight to Australians through personal finance books, the Money TV show, and this publication, which he established in 1999. Paul is the chair of the Australian Government Financial Literacy Board and is chairman of InvestSMART Financial Services. He is the chair of Financial Literacy at Macquarie University where he is also a Professor with the School of Business and Economics. Ask Paul your money question. Unfortunately Paul cannot respond to questions posted in the comments section. View our disclaimer.
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Marty Dantas
September 11, 2024 4.43pm

How terrible and sad life must be for this person to not see how they can retire when they already have a fully paid off home and $1.1m in assets. An income producing asset base that could conceivable grow to $2m in seven years by the time they retire, and they'd rather live off $30k a year on the age pension.

Horrifying that this sort of thinking is seemingly normal.

K J
September 25, 2024 11.18am

Absolutely. It is sad that this is way too common. I have came across many this kind of people, and I will not stop telling them that government pension is for those who need it, not those who has $1 million dollar home. Downsize to support your own retirement. For those who are unable to comprehend, I pay $60k tax annually to make this country a good place to live, for everyone who needs it. The OP should be ashamed of him/herself.

Nathan S
September 11, 2024 4.48pm

I know "ok boomer" has been done to death but what else can you say?

Roger M
September 11, 2024 9.09pm

Not actually a Boomer. Actually an X-er. But anyway.

Amanda Huggenkiss
September 12, 2024 1.43pm

When Gen-Xers become as greedy and entitled as their boomer parents...

Nathan S
September 11, 2024 4.48pm

I know "ok boomer" has been done to death but what else can you say?

Bea Arthur
September 11, 2024 4.50pm

The pension is for vulnerable people! It's not a cash bonus you get for paying your taxes.

Sam P
September 11, 2024 4.52pm

What you have is plenty, and should grow to a nice amount. Many people would love to have that amount when retiring and get $90k a year in retirement, which is much more than you'd get on the full pension. I know which one I'd be choosing. And I also know that as I spend my money I'll eventually qualify for a part pension as a safety net to help my money last longer.

I do not understand why you'd give away money to qualify for the pension, yet it seems a mentality that many have. Of course, as Paul has previously said, give some money to help your kids, and see them enjoy it while you're still alive, but not just to qualify for the pension.

So Disappointed
September 11, 2024 4.53pm

This is really disappointing, Money magazine. Why would you give this man a platform? You're only encouraging others to rort an already struggling welfare system.

Majella Franklin
September 21, 2024 6.56am

I totally agree with Sam P. He is in a very comfortable financial position. He is worrying about money and could live very comfortable. The pension is there for the people who need it. If every retiree had this mentality where would our welfare system be today.

David Close
September 11, 2024 11.24pm

I suggest that you give as much as you can to your children to allow you to qualify for a full Centrelink age pension when you are of age. They can use it as deposit for a nice house each in a good neighborhood. It will also give them enough to gain a good tertiary education and perhaps see a bit of the world. But when you are struggling to live on the age pension (provided by your tax-paying friends), and the amount you have left, don't expect any gratitude or any financial help from them. And oh - then perhaps one has lost half of his/her share of your money to a divorced partner.

Hayley C
September 12, 2024 3.16pm

Why would you want to give your kids a million dollars and live on the pension?

C Bart
September 12, 2024 11.14pm

Such a sorry state of affairs that someone in a wealthy, gifted situation is asking for ideas & validation about tax dodging & leeching off the public purse. Clearly looks like the idea is to gift money to children 'on paper' to get the pension as well.

No wonder the future generations are screwed with logic & attitudes like this.

When are we going to embrace tax & paying our fair share so that we can live in an affluent, socially stable society?

Lynette Scott
September 13, 2024 9.16pm

To be honest this querie turns my stomach.

Being 77 & relying on my aged pension, I cannot understand the greed of some people.

My husband was a printer & I was an office worker.

We bought our house, & starting to pay it off & in the mid 80's we were hit with interest rates of 18% plus.

Also for those who don't know, Superannuation was only brought in later in our working lives.

I came out with $40,000 & my husband much the same.

We paid the last of our loan & then the unseen arrived with mine & my husband health.

Heart, Cancer & other problems.

We were so grateful that we had paid off our home & so very thankful for the Disability support.

My Husbad passed 6yrs ago from pulmonary Fibrosis.

He was at least so comforted that I had a home & aged pension.

Please note all Baby Boomers are not rich.

The stories would be more like mine.

K S
September 21, 2024 8.34am

Thank you Lynette for providing the real situation for the silent majority of Boomers. I'm in my 60s and working hard in an environment full of ambitious, if not somewhat entitled, younger generations who for some reason think us Boomers are the enemy. My wife and I came to Australia as immigrants around 40 years of age, bought a car and put a deposit on a house with our life savings from South Africa, raised two kids who are productive decent married Christian adults now, working hard in trades and medical services, contributing to Australian society and raising the next generation to be the same. My wife works for next to nothing as a professional in a charity. Our combined super is a fraction of the rich whimp (Richard), who should not get a platform to further alienate the younger generations who already seem to hate all Boomers).

Thank you Lynette for your positive reality check and best wishes to you!

Patricia Price
September 21, 2024 4.15am

This enquiry made me so angry, wake up and stop being so greedy, pensions are for the most needed not the rich

Greg Holding
October 1, 2024 9.08am

Ben Chifley and JohnCurtain would turn in there graves.We now live in a society that believes its entitled,and its usually people who have plenty of money who are often looking for strategies to pay less tax or to grab a pension where possible........even when its not required.Pure selfishness greed,and ignorance.We need to support those people who have little,or who are struggling day to day to live,not give more benefits to people who have plenty.Whats wrong with these people?