Friends With Money #270: The ETF investing playbook

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In August 2001, Australia's first ETFs were launched. Today, more than two million Australians own them. So what can investors learn from 25 years of ETF investing?

On this episode of the Friends With Money podcast, Money's Tom Watson is joined by Jonathan Shead, head of investments, Australia, at State Street Investment Management.

They discuss the evolution of ETFs and the investing behaviours that matter most.

On this episode of the Friends With Money podcast, Money's Tom Watson is joined by Jonathan Shead, head of investments, Australia, at State Street Investment Management, to discuss the evolution of ETFs and the investing behaviours that matter most.

Episode timestamps

00:00 Introduction

01:11 Biggest lesson from 25 years of ETFs

03:07 How investors should approach ETFs as investments

04:35 The evolution of diversification over time

06:20 Can you own too many ETFs?

07:37 Which ETFs have been most popular with investors?

09:35 Lessons from the GFC and COVID downturns

11:37 ETF liquidity during market crises

13:47 The future: active ETFs and tokenisation

15:36 Conclusion

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Tom Watson is a senior journalist at Money magazine, and one of the hosts of the Friends With Money podcast. He's previously worked as a journalist covering everything from property and consumer banking to financial technology. Tom has a Bachelor of Communication (Journalism) from the University of Technology, Sydney. Connect with Tom Watson on LinkedIn.

Jonathan Shead is the head of investments, Australia at State Street Investment Management. He has more than 35 years' investment industry experience. Jon joined State Street Investment Management in 2000 and has held roles including Australia head of retirement solutions, APAC head portfolio strategist and he was a member of the global portfolio strategy team. Jonathan holds a Bachelor of Economics from Macquarie University and is a Fellow of the Institute of Actuaries of Australia. Follow Jonathan on LinkedIn.