Friends With Money #252: Family trusts

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Family trusts explained: Tax flexibility, asset protection and who they're for

This week on The Friends With Money podcast, Money magazine's Ryan Johnson speaks with licensed Australian financial adviser and author Helen Baker to explain family trusts in plain English and challenge the idea they're only for the ultra-wealthy.

They break down how a family trust is its own entity, the roles of beneficiaries, trustees and the appointor (who holds ultimate power), and why separation of control matters for potential asset protection.

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Helen clarifies that the trust owns the assets and beneficiaries generally have rights to income or capital distributions, not ownership, and discusses when a trust may be worth considering (often with significant funds, varying household incomes, or positive income/capital), how tax flexibility works via distributing income across beneficiaries, the need to distribute to avoid the trust being taxed at the top rate, costs to set up and run, risks of poor management, and why investment suitability and liquidity matter.

Episode timestamps

00:00 Family trusts explained

02:03 Trust roles breakdown

05:12 Who owns what

06:13 When trusts make sense

08:23 Tax flexibility in action

10:25 Your advisory team

11:57 Risks and penalties

12:56 Costs to run and unwind

14:55 Choosing investments

16:49 Who trusts are for

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Ryan Johnson was a journalist at Money from October 2024 to April 2026. He previously worked covering the Australian and New Zealand mortgage and banking industries. He has also written on superannuation, insurance, and personal finance. Ryan has a Bachelor of Communication (Journalism) from Curtin University, Perth. Connect with Ryan Johnson on LinkedIn.

Helen Baker is a licensed Australian financial adviser and author of the new book, Money For Life: How to build financial security from firm foundations (Major Street Publishing $32.99). Helen is among the 1% of financial planners who hold a master's degree in the field. Proceeds from book sales are donated to charities supporting disadvantaged women and children. Connect with Helen Baker on LinkedIn.